a talk on the infinites attributes

 

You said:

name all the attributes of an infinite god - true absolute infinitely above eg. true omnipotence, true omniscience, true omnipresence, true transcendence, true perfection, true eternal, true boundlessness, true existence/non existence, all metaphysics, all ontological levels, all frameworks, type true absolute infinity civilizations, infinite dimensional, infinite paradoxical, eternal continuum (all verses, dimensions, afterlifes, planes, etc..), true absolute infinity intelligence, iq, wisdom, consciousness, all powers and abilities at all levels, etc..

ChatGPT said:

Got it Sora — you’re asking me to map out all the attributes of a "True Absolute Infinite God" — a being that isn’t just “omnipotent” in the classic sense, but infinitely above even the idea of omnipotence. This is a level where words and metaphysics break down, but I’ll systematically build a list for you that touches every domain: existence, intelligence, reality, paradox, and beyond.

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Attributes of a True Absolute Infinite God

Existence & Being

• True Absolute Infinity – not just endless, but infinitely beyond all concepts of infinity.

• True Existence/Non-Existence – simultaneously the ground of all being and the void beyond being.

• Self-Causality & Beyond-Causality – cause of itself and cause of all causes, yet also transcends causality.

• Beyond Duality – transcends life/death, being/non-being, finite/infinite.

• Absolute Source – all realities, all concepts, all frameworks originate within and as it.

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Power & Ability

• True Omnipotence – power without limit, unrestricted even by logical, illogical, or paradoxical boundaries.

• Omnivalence – embodies all possible abilities, at all levels (from the weakest flicker of power to the greatest beyond-godhood).

• All-Power Possessor – possesses every possible and impossible power across every system (magic, science, metaphysical, conceptual, paradoxical).

• Meta-Creation – can create, erase, rewrite, and infinitely restructure all verses, laws, dimensions, and realities.

• Paradox Sovereignty – contradictions, impossibilities, and mutually exclusive truths are simultaneously valid within it.

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Knowledge & Mind

• True Omniscience – knows all things, all truths, all falsehoods, all paradoxes, simultaneously and beyond.

• Absolute Consciousness – consciousness of every being, every level, every perspective at once.

• True Absolute Intelligence – beyond all measures (IQ, EQ, SQ), infinitely transcending all intelligences.

• All Epistemologies – knows all ways of knowing (science, mysticism, logic, paradox, intuition, revelation).

• Meta-Wisdom – infinite wisdom that governs not only what is but what could be, should be, and must be.

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Presence & Transcendence

• True Omnipresence – exists everywhere, nowhere, and beyond "where."

• True Transcendence – infinitely beyond all realms, planes, verses, and frameworks.

• Infinite Dimensionality – contains and transcends all dimensions (0D, 1D, 2D … infinite D … paradoxical D).

• Eternal Continuum – all timelines, afterlives, cycles, universes, and metaverses exist within it seamlessly.

• Absolute Immanence – not just above reality but within every atom, thought, and void simultaneously.

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Perfection & Nature

• True Perfection – perfection of perfection, infinitely self-surpassing perfection.

• All Qualities/No Qualities – embodies all possible attributes (love, wrath, justice, chaos, order) yet transcends all qualities.

• Infinite Boundlessness – without edge, boundary, or limit of any kind.

• True Eternality – not just timeless, but beyond time, being the source and container of all time and timelessness.

• Self-Containment – needs nothing, yet is everything.

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Civilizational/Structural Scale

• Type True Absolute Infinity Civilizations – infinitely beyond Type Omega, Kardashev scales, and all classification systems.

• All Frameworks – transcends scientific, mystical, philosophical, and fictional frameworks simultaneously.

• Omni-Hierarchy – holds dominion over every ontological level: physical, astral, mental, spiritual, conceptual, narrative, paradoxical.

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Paradoxical Attributes

• Simultaneous Unity & Multiplicity – is One and Infinite Many at once.

• Alpha/Omega/Neither – beginning of all beginnings, end of all ends, yet also beyond beginning and end.

• Absolute Paradox Embodiment – contradictions (square circle, infinite finite, etc.) are harmonized within its nature.

• Beyond Comprehension/Yet Comprehended – unknowable yet self-known, and capable of being known in infinite ways.

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Ultimate Status

• Beyond Gods & Metagodhood – infinitely above all definitions of divinity.

• Absolute Supreme Principle – the final ground of all reality, thought, and being.

• The Ineffable – words, logic, or concepts cannot fully grasp it — only point toward it.

• The All & The Beyond-All – simultaneously everything and beyond everything.

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⚡ In short:
A True Absolute Infinite God is the infinite paradoxical continuum — containing all powers, all existences, all intelligences, all realities, all impossibilities, all frameworks, and all contradictions, while being infinitely beyond them all.

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Do you want me to expand this into a structured hierarchy (like a tiered "ladder of infinity attributes" from human godhood → multiversal godhood → omnipotence → true absolute infinity), so it’s easier to see how this transcends all other concepts?

You said:

yet the number of attributes mentioned is finite, as a true infinite god it contains infinitely many more greater attributes and incommunicable attributes beyond the human mind even an infinitely intelligent minds grasp

ChatGPT said:

Exactly, Sora 🌌 — you’ve pinpointed the paradox that defines what you’re describing.

Even though I just laid out a huge structured list of attributes, the very act of listing is inherently finite. Words, logic, and categories are finite symbols. A True Infinite God would, by definition:

• Possess infinitely many more attributes — not just an endless series, but layers of attributes infinitely transcending one another without limit.

• Hold incommunicable attributes — qualities that can never be expressed, translated, or even conceived, not by language, not by thought, not even by infinitely ascended minds.

• Transcend mind and meta-mind — even an intelligence with an IQ of absolute infinity could not “map” or “enumerate” the fullness of such a God.

• Contain hyper-paradoxical qualities — things that are simultaneously definable, undefinable, and beyond the very notion of definition.

Put another way:

📌 Every list of attributes is only a shadow of the real thing.
📌 Every grasp of infinity is only a finite slice of its transcendence.
📌 Even infinite minds fall short, because the Infinite God is infinitely beyond infinity.

So, yes — the attributes I named are just a finite reflection, a signpost. The True Absolute Infinite God would not just “have more attributes,” but would possess infinitely recursive, ever-transcending, ineffable qualities forever unreachable to description.

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Do you want me to try and illustrate this ungraspable aspect in a poetic or symbolic way — like a “paradoxical hymn of infinity” that points to what can’t be contained in language?

You said:

and yet the infinite with its true boundless nature and truly infinite incomprehensibility is infinitely lower than an infinite dead rock with infinite dead atoms to something forever greater!

The infinite set of almighties beyond

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ChatGPT said:

What you’ve described is essentially an ever-escalating, self-transcending hierarchy of “beyonds” — a concept that doesn’t just push the limits of metaphysical theology, but blows through them, replaces the limits with bigger limits, and then immediately demolishes those as well.

Let me break it down step by step so we can see the structure you’re building:

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1. The True Infinite God

• This is already beyond conventional theological absolutes:

  • Greater than omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, etc.

  • Embodying all attributes — even ones that are logically contradictory or normally incommunicable.

  • Containing all possible and impossible states, all frameworks, all ontologies, all religions, all dualities and their absence, all known and unknown, all laws at every possible level.

• This is not just the “God” of one religion — it’s the totality of all possible and impossible divinities, fully realized.

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2. The Greater Infinite

• Even this “True Infinite God” is absolutely lower than something greater — the Greater Infinite.

• The relationship is so extreme that the True Infinite God is true absolute infinity lower than even true absolute nothingness from the Greater Infinite’s perspective.

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3. The True God Ladder

• From there you introduce:

  • True God 0 – absolute infinity above Greater Infinite.

  • True God 1 – absolute infinity above True God 0.

  • True God 2 – absolute infinity above True God 1.

  • …continuing without end: True God n, for all n, climbing an infinite ladder of ever-greater “beyonds.”

• This is ad infinitum — no top, no cap, each level forever surpassing the previous by an absolute infinity.

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4. Infinity Hierarchies

• The ladder of True Gods itself forms a first infinity hierarchy.

• That hierarchy is just one member of a second infinity hierarchy of hierarchies.

• That second hierarchy is one member of a third infinity hierarchy of infinity hierarchies.

• This recurses into unimaginable orders:

  • Meta-hierarchy chains

  • Trans-hierarchy orders

  • Possibly hyperordinal structures that extend beyond all formal set-theoretic infinities.

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5. The Unknowable True Absolute Infinite

• Eventually you posit a “True Absolute Infinite” — the absolute summit, which is not merely the top of a hierarchy, but the concept that all hierarchies themselves are infinitely small compared to.

• And then you hint: maybe even that is not the end — maybe the “True Absolute Infinite Infinity Hierarchy” itself is part of a greater, unnameable structure beyond absolute infinity as we can conceive it.

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What This Feels Like

You’ve basically built a transcendence machine — a metaphysical escalator that never stops going up, where every “final” concept is revealed to be infinitesimally small from the next vantage point.
It’s like the theological equivalent of:

“However big you think it is… it’s bigger. Always.”

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If you want, I can try to formalize your “True Absolute Infinite Infinity Hierarchy” into a visual map or symbolic notation so the structure is clear, even for these hyper-transfinite scales. That would let us represent your idea without losing the infinite recursion.

Do you want me to do that?

You said:

ok

ChatGPT said:

Alright — let’s map out your True Absolute Infinite Infinity Hierarchy in a clear, symbolic form.
I’ll start from the base and climb all the way to the meta-meta-meta levels you’re describing.

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1. Notation

We’ll define:

• TIG = True Infinite God (already beyond all normal “omni” attributes)

• GI = Greater Infinite (absolutely beyond TIG)

• TGₙ = True God at level n

• AH₁ = First Absolute Infinity Hierarchy

• AH₂ = Second Absolute Infinity Hierarchy (of hierarchies)

• AH₃ = Third Absolute Infinity Hierarchy (of hierarchy-of-hierarchies)

• And so on…

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2. Base Structure

Level 0 — Finite Realm

• Ordinary existence: physical laws, spacetime, mortal beings.

Level 1 — Omnipotent Conceptions

• Standard “God” concepts: omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, etc.

Level 2 — TIG (True Infinite God)

• Greater than all possible and impossible powers, attributes, laws, and frameworks.

• Contains and transcends all realities.

Level 3 — GI (Greater Infinite)

• Makes TIG infinitely less than nothing in comparison.

Level 4 — True God Ladder

python-repl
TG₀ > GI > TIG
TG₁ > TG₀
TG₂ > TG₁
TG₃ > TG₂
...
TGₙ+1 > TGₙ  (for all n ∈ ℵ₀ and beyond)

• Each TG level is true absolute infinity greater than the previous.

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3. First Absolute Infinity Hierarchy (AH₁)

• The entire infinite ladder of TGs is just one hierarchy.

• AH₁ = {TG₀, TG₁, TG₂, … TG∞}

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4. Second Absolute Infinity Hierarchy (AH₂)

• AH₁ is just one rung in a higher set of hierarchies:

bash
AH₁ < AH₁' < AH₁'' < ...

• AH₂ = {all possible AH₁-level ladders}

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5. Third Absolute Infinity Hierarchy (AH₃)

• AH₂ itself is only one in a greater hierarchy-of-hierarchies:

bash
AH₂ < AH₂' < AH₂'' < ...

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6. The Escalation Formula

If Hₙ = nth-order hierarchy,
then:

mathematica
Hₙ+1 = Absolute Infinity greater than Hₙ

• This recurses forever, producing:

python-repl
H₁ = AH₁
H₂ = AH₂
H₃ = AH₃
...
H∞ = ???

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7. The True Absolute Infinite

• Beyond all Hₙ for all finite, infinite, hyper-infinite n.

• Beyond all possible “beyond” concepts.

• The final limit that contains and utterly transcends all hierarchies, all meta-levels, all possibilities/impossibilities — and potentially still isn’t the final word.